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35. What are some Wide Body and Standard playfield glass dimensions?
This info can only be used as a general glass size guide.
36.Who are the major Pinball manufacturers in the U.S,A.? (Whom are still in business)
37. How to get started constructing a new pinball. Our opinion on game themes.
38. What is the "correct" pinball leg length for my game?
| 35. What are some Wide Body and standard playfield glass dimensions? |
Most modern pinball games use a standard sized playfield glass.
Widebody pinball games can have different playfield glass dimensions that changed with the game's title and manufacturer.
See Tech Tip 6 for more on widebody PF glass replacement.
Pinball Medic does not sale new or used playfield glass.
We are not responsible for any PF glass measurement errors on this page.
NOTE: PF=Playfield. LB.=Pounds. "=Inches.
Glass dimensions are Width" X Length" X Thickness.
All flippered pinball machines use a tempered glass (without the tempered "seal or mark").
A standard pinball playfield glass measures 21" wide x 43" length x 3/16 inch thick (double strength). It is used on most pinball machines, although there are many exceptions to this standard size.
Standard playfield glass part numbers.
Williams 08-7028-T / A-08-7028-T.
Data East / Sega / Stern 660-5001-00.
Game Plan 08-10003D.
Capcom GL00102. Weight: 14.9 lb..
Early solid state Williams wide body pinball machines PF glass measures 27-5/8" x 43" x 3/16" thick. 08-7359-T Weight: 16 lb..
Early Bally electromechanical (EM) PF glass (metal framed glass holder) is 21" x 41-1/2" x 3/16 inches thick. G-337, Weight: 18 lb..
Wide body early Bally solid state PF glass measures 27-1/2" x 43" x 3/16 inches. G-409-1, Weight: 16 lb..
Williams Joust Pinball machine - Measures 25 1/2" x 42 1/2" x 3/16 Inches.
Williams Hyperball and Bally Rapid Fire - Measures 21" x 37" x 3/16 Inches.
Williams Magic Clock PF glass measures 21 3/4" x 43" x 3/16" Inches.
|Wide Body and Game Specific playfield glass dimensions |
(by game name and manufacturer).
Pinball 2000 - Uses a special half-mirrored playfield glass on all Pinball 2000 games. Revenge From Mars and Star Wars Episode 1. 04-12739.1 Weight: 19 lb..
Wide Body glass measures 23-3/4" x 43" x 3/16" thick.
Used on the following games: Demolition Man, Indiana Jones (IJ), Judge Dredd (JD), Popeye, Road Show, Star Trek The Next Generation (STTNG), Twilight Zone (TZ). Williams 08-7028-1. Weight: 21 lb..
Wide body PF glass for early Stern (1980-1982) and other pinball machines measures 24-9/16" x 45-3/4" x 3/16" thick.
Fits - Big Game (BG), Cheetah, Flight 2000 (F2K), Freefall (Stern), Iron Maiden (IM), Orbitor 1, Split Second (SS), Viper (Stern). Weight: 12 lb...
Data East wide body PF glass size is 23.75" by 43" by 3/16" thick.
NOTE:This is incorrectly stated in the Guns N Roses and WWF Royal Rumble game manuals. See Service Bulletin number 99.
Fits: Batman Forever, Guns N Roses, WWF Royal Rumble.
660-5014-00, Weight: 15 lb...
Gottlieb early solid state System 1 wide body tempered glass measures 27-1/2" x 48-1/2" x 3/16" thick.
Fits the following games: ROLLER DISCO and GENIE, Weight: 10 lb...
Wide body tempered glass for Gottlieb early solid state System 80 measures 24-5/8" x 48-3/8" x 3/16" thick. GTBSYS80-W, Weight: 20 lb...
Fits the following games: (1981-10) Black Hole (BH), (1980-06) Circus, (1980-08) Counterforce (CF), (1982) Eclipse, (1981-02) Force II, (1982-06) Haunted House (HH), (1980-10) James Bond 007, (1980-06) Panthera, (1981-03) Pink Panther, (1980-10) Star Race, (1980-05) Spider Man, (1980-12) Time Line, (1981-09) Volcano.
Williams Slugfest pitch & bat baseball machine. 23" x 35.25" 08-7572-1
18.5" x 36.5" x 3/16" Fits - Bally Safecracker, Ticket Tac Toe. 90003 or 08-8103, Weight: 15 lb...
Stern's Orbitor - Measures 24 5/8" x 45 3/4" x 3/16 Inches.
| 36. Who are the major pinball manufacturers in the U.S.? (still in business) |
We will add the rest as time permita.
| Pinball companies and their links. |
The oldest is Stern Pinball (1977-Now) All Solid State.
Jersey Jack pinball (2013-Now) Mostly Widebody pinball.
A small company named Spooky Pinball LLC.
| 37. How to Manufacture a new pinball game. |
We have read many articles about modifying existing machines or building a game from scratch. We tried to do both at the same time making a Plexiglas pinball cabinet and playfield and used a great EM game as a template.
This turned out to be one of the hardest, expensive and time consuming projects imaginable. We never finished it.
Search the internet for a Plexiglas EM and the "Mirror Universe" pinball projects. They are two good exceptions to the "don't build it" rule and can provide information on home built pinball games.
Hey! Keep scrolling down to our opions on game theme and the general state of Pinball design.
If this construction of new games warning was not enough, go here to learn more about building a pinball machine.
|Custom made pinball games. |
Even if you don't like the theme, game play or the long construction times of modern pinball machines, let the major three remaining pinball companies continue to make them.
It takes hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of equipment and parts (woodworking, electronics, playfield mechisns, CNC machine, screen printing equipment and many specialised parts) to make a modern pinball, at least a good professionally looking one.
Wait for a game with your favorite theme to be made. Play it first before you buy or at least read the opinions of many other players of a specific game (use more sources then IPDB).
After a period of time reflecting on this complex and expensive decision, save some money and buy the game used. That's the surest way to purchase a game you will actually want to play without making one yourself.
| Our opinions on game themes. |
There are too many pinballs based on flopped movies or very old Rock n Roll bands. At least read the script and forget the hype before building another movie themed pinball. Realize the pinball may flop with the movie (remember Waterworld?).
Manufacturers, go get yourself some young people's money and extend the future of pinball at the same time with a wider generalized pinball topic. Also, take the "suits" out of the design process. Don't even think about skimping on the playfield toys.
You cannot wait a long time to produce a good playing and themed pinball either. Old Pinball collectors and arcades are dieing at an alarming rate. Most kids don't know what a pinball is or how to play one (playing on a cell phone doesn't count).
The End Is Nigh!
It would be refreshing to play a pinball with more of a "general theme". Anime ("panty shoots" anyone?), Science Fiction, classic\modern coin-op game, literature. or even a music style (instead of a pinball based on only one band) are all examples of a good theme. This was how it was done in the past fifty plus years of pinball! It will work again. Think of all the royalties the pinball companies could save with a general purpose theme.
Can you image the uniquely American style of Jazz as a pinball? Think of all the classic upbeat Jazz tunes that could be used.
Change the gameplay as the game is played. Improvisational Jazz is not played the same way each time. Nether should an entertaining pinball. Keep people interested and engaged. Make it hard to truly "beat" a pinball (Oops, pun occurred.).
Devices that randomize the ball's roll, faster open field playfields with hidden paths\targets, multiple flippers (small and three inch sized), powered targets and a half pop bumper instead of slings. All these concepts and a few critical stand alone skill shots thrown in could make the game less predicable. Keep the player's attention for a longer time, dropping more quaters in as a result!.
Some unusual playfield toys would bring back the spark of pinball to the masses. Players could use more then their flipper fingers (Maybe their brains?) to strategies the best way to score big.
New thinking would reignite the pinball industry. Get this game back to being the top coin-op game. Not just a way to deliver a gum ball.
You have reached the end of our ranting opinions. Just know that without new ideals, Pinball could end up as another dead artform like Jukeboxes. The world would be made lesser as a result.
| 38. What is the "correct" pinball leg length for a game? |
Legs changed in more ways then length.
Legs can be painted\plated with different colors like Chrome, Black, Grey, White and even Green. They can also have or not have a rib running most of the length of the leg.
Woodrails typically used wood legs and no one sells legs for these games. So little information is know about this type of pinball leg.
General rule - Games with deeper cabinets have shorter legs (Example. Gotlieb's Roller Disco uses short legs).
NOTE: There are many shops that sell pinball machines equipped with what ever legs were wasting space in the showroom. This is a very common problem.
However, most styles of legs are either still being made or someone has a stash of the correct leg for your game. Just don't assume your game came equipped with the right legs when you bought it.
Also, RUST is not a valid leg color. Don't be fooled by a dealer that uses bad or the wrong legs on a game.
|Pinball game specific leg lengths. |
The word correct is subjective in this question. The formulation of "correctness" in this case is made with the consensus of various manufacturer and other coin-op site provided information.
It is assumed that all four legs on a pinball are the same length. Leg levellers are used to change the playfield slope and the general height of the game.. However, there may be some rare games that use shorter front legs to set the slant of a game. We don't have any proof this situation ever occurred on a commercial pinball.
With this many variables, we have decided to provide links to sites with the most probable answer to this question. Instead of presenting a large set of leg data here on this page.
We may combine all this information on a separate page at some later date.
PBR's leg page
One of the best preserved pinball related sites had
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